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		<title>By: Smithers MINNEAPOLIS &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Remains of the 35W Bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smithers MINNEAPOLIS &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Remains of the 35W Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NTSB has what&#8217;s left of the bridge in storage just down river from where it fell. Kinda [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Smithers MINNEAPOLIS &#187; Blog Archive &#187; one year ago today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smithers MINNEAPOLIS &#187; Blog Archive &#187; one year ago today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tyboty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyboty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I may be wrong, but I think not using that construction technique has more to do with the labor costs of welding up all that steel rather than the integrity of the design.&quot;

I think most of the connections were bolted, though your point that concrete construction tends too be cheaper seems accurate to me.

I also think that the maintenance that was going on was more invasive than is being let on - that is from my vantage of riding under it for the last couple of months.  I could regularly see daylight through the deck, and it looks like they were making concrete and rebar repairs.

This is not to say that the maintenance was necessarily at fault - the collapse was so symmetrical and catastrophic that many factors likely led up to the failure.

Tragic all around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I may be wrong, but I think not using that construction technique has more to do with the labor costs of welding up all that steel rather than the integrity of the design.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think most of the connections were bolted, though your point that concrete construction tends too be cheaper seems accurate to me.</p>
<p>I also think that the maintenance that was going on was more invasive than is being let on &#8211; that is from my vantage of riding under it for the last couple of months.  I could regularly see daylight through the deck, and it looks like they were making concrete and rebar repairs.</p>
<p>This is not to say that the maintenance was necessarily at fault &#8211; the collapse was so symmetrical and catastrophic that many factors likely led up to the failure.</p>
<p>Tragic all around.</p>
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		<title>By: a. kruse</title>
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		<dc:creator>a. kruse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of us *were* up at the track when it happened. Luckily it was an earlier start time, otherwise some track ppl might have been on it.

On my way home I parked at West River/Franklin and grabbed my camera and tried to get closer but at that point the area was under lockdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us *were* up at the track when it happened. Luckily it was an earlier start time, otherwise some track ppl might have been on it.</p>
<p>On my way home I parked at West River/Franklin and grabbed my camera and tried to get closer but at that point the area was under lockdown.</p>
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		<title>By: Mollye</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/minneapolis/comment-page-1/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Mollye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 06:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you and your family are ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you and your family are ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Smithers</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/minneapolis/comment-page-1/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Smithers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 04:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Channel 4 made the statement that a transportation official commented that a bridge would not be built this way any more.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

I may be wrong, but I think not using that construction technique has more to do with the labor costs of welding up all that steel rather than the integrity of the design.

Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>Channel 4 made the statement that a transportation official commented that a bridge would not be built this way any more.</i></b></p>
<p>I may be wrong, but I think not using that construction technique has more to do with the labor costs of welding up all that steel rather than the integrity of the design.</p>
<p>Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: jroosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jroosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a sad day that we will never forget. We will never be able to cross a large bridge without thinking about today.

It is too early to draw conclusions. However, based on the way the Star Tribune depicts the sequence of failure and the fact that recent inspections indicated no significant metal fatigue, it all seems to point to an initial design flaw or erroneous engineering calculation of some sort. It would seem to take a fundemental failure to bring the whole bridge down.

In 1967 there were no computers to perform the mathematics. There was no computer-aided design or modeling.

Channel 4 made the statement that a transportation official commented that a bridge would not be built this way any more.

I wonder if this disaster was only a matter of time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a sad day that we will never forget. We will never be able to cross a large bridge without thinking about today.</p>
<p>It is too early to draw conclusions. However, based on the way the Star Tribune depicts the sequence of failure and the fact that recent inspections indicated no significant metal fatigue, it all seems to point to an initial design flaw or erroneous engineering calculation of some sort. It would seem to take a fundemental failure to bring the whole bridge down.</p>
<p>In 1967 there were no computers to perform the mathematics. There was no computer-aided design or modeling.</p>
<p>Channel 4 made the statement that a transportation official commented that a bridge would not be built this way any more.</p>
<p>I wonder if this disaster was only a matter of time?</p>
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		<title>By: Little d</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mised it by 20 minutes, my wife missed it by 10. I drive it twice a day if I don&#039;t ride my bike. Fuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mised it by 20 minutes, my wife missed it by 10. I drive it twice a day if I don&#8217;t ride my bike. Fuck</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not looking forward to work tomorrow as I work at Fairview Riverside location and our conference room looks out at this bridge, I believe.  I sincerely hope none of my co-workers were heading home or over to the U.  This is the main bridge we used to shuttle between the two campuses.  Horrible.  How could this happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not looking forward to work tomorrow as I work at Fairview Riverside location and our conference room looks out at this bridge, I believe.  I sincerely hope none of my co-workers were heading home or over to the U.  This is the main bridge we used to shuttle between the two campuses.  Horrible.  How could this happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Safe at Home &#124; Garrick Van Buren .com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Safe at Home &#124; Garrick Van Buren .com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smithers MINNEAPOLIS &#187; Minneapolis Bridge Collapse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smithers MINNEAPOLIS &#187; Minneapolis Bridge Collapse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All updates have been moved to my Minneapolis Bridge Collapse Page. [...]</description>
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