NVGP Rumor, part II – Just as I suspected

April 8th, 2009 | Posted by Smithers at 2:03 pm in Local Cycling |

Regarding the previous post, sometimes it’s important to get the entire story before publishing rumor. Otherwise people get all upset and militant when they only have half the story. I know this from first hand experience myself.

The BikeThrow.com statementthe Nature Valley Grand Prix has warned a certain individual; if he persists in using the tour as a vehicle to promote his brand or message, the NVGP will have him arrested and may take legal action against him” is simply not true.

What is true is that the Nature Valley Grand Prix has threatened that if a certain individual, or ANYONE for that matter, runs out onto the race course while competitors are in action, ignoring the calls of the course martials, and interfere with the racers or the media (moto-cameramen) covering the race, they may be asked to leave the event or may be arrested, regardless of what sign or logo they may be sporting.

This is not a freedom of speech issue, this is a safety issue. This goes back a topic that I have written about before. I am strongly opposed to spectators interfering with racers or racing. It’s dangerous and these kind of actions only promote an escalation in this type of behavior. Racers can get knocked off their bikes, spectators can fall down and be injured, moto-drivers might lose control of their vehicles. Spectators: stay the hell out of the god damn way.

What I am really surprised about in this situation is the total lack of journalistic ethics displayed on the part of BikeThrow.com in only reporting half of this story. I guess this is where the “gossip” part of their sub-heading comes into play. However, if this type of “reporting” continues I would seriously question whether BikeThrow.com should continue to be treated as a media source when it comes time to allocate press passes for future cycling events. It’s one thing to post rumor and gossip on a blog, it’s another thing to try and present yourself as a news source and publish a story like this.

Bad move guys. Bad move.

  1. 32 Responses to “NVGP Rumor, part II – Just as I suspected”

  2. By redBeard at 2:12 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    Thank you.

  3. By Donimator at 2:14 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    Like I said before, I talked to the “individual” and it sounds to me like NVGP is tap dancing and changing their tune due to the overwhelming support of this “individual” Just my two cents….

  4. By a. kruse at 2:19 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    Why don’t you start legitimizing yourself with some actual sources coming on record, Don?

    BTDC was *never* a legitimate news source, it’s a distraction.

  5. By JimmerC at 2:21 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    Well said Smithers. Showing a sign on the sidelines = harmless. Running up the middle of the course with a sign over your head = stupid and dangerous.

  6. By Joe Parkin at 2:22 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    while mostly dangerous, yes, sometimes hitting a drunk spectator is really fun, and if you’re in a really neat place like Belgium, the drunk spectator is most likely going to get beat up. yep.

  7. By Tito Colnago at 2:35 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    hey Super Rookie,
    didn’t you used to work for the NVGP? Doing a podcast or something? Wow. Next time, here’s a knife.

  8. By jim r at 2:43 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    Sounds like they were trying to be fair and balanced.

  9. By Wheels at 3:31 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    “What I am really surprised about in this situation is the total lack of journalistic ethics displayed on the part of BikeThrow.com in only reporting half of this story.”

    And you contacted the “other half” for his version of said conversation (threats)? Is that what you are now “reporting”?

    Am I the only one to note the hypocrisy in your “reporting”?

  10. By meowmeow at 3:32 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Donimator: yeah, I’m kinda thinkin the same thing…what else can they do besides “backpedal” now?

  11. By Smithers at 3:38 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Wheels: And you contacted the “other half” for his version of said conversation (threats)? Is that what you are now “reporting”?

    Am I the only one to note the hypocrisy in your “reporting”?

    I don’t report. This is a blog, not a news site.

    If you take seriously anything you read on my site, or any blog, you do so at your own peril.

  12. By Wheels at 3:51 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    Hmmm, so I should not take as fact … What is [b]true[/b] is that the Nature Valley Grand Prix has threatened …?

    Convenient for you to state something as fact, only to then hide behind the “take with a grain of salt because I’m just a blogger” – defense.

    Very sly Mr. Smithers.

  13. By Smithers at 4:12 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Wheels: You are free to take as fact what ever you desire.

    Again, I am not a reporter and this is not a news site. My feeling was that BikeThrow had a greater responsibility to attempt to report the reality than some blogger does.

    I think my statement is true. There is certainly more to this story that I don’t know. Is it my job to investigate? I don’t think it is.

    But all of this is only my opinion. If BikeThrow had written their piece as an opinion piece instead of a news piece than it could have been discussed as such.

    - Did BikeThrow talk to anyone at NVGP about this rumor?

    - Is anyone on the record about this situation?

    - Does anyone really think they are going to be arrested for showing up at the NVGP wearing a logo t-shirt?

    This whole thing is absurd.

    I would probably run things differently if I was in charge of the NVGP, thank god that I am not. But I do not understand the unending antagonism and resentment towards the NVGP by some in the cycling community.

    This story had real legs because of the already ginned up antipathy towards the NVGP in this community.

    Maybe that is the real story here.

  14. By bloodline at 4:35 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    don’t believe the hype….blogs lie all the time

  15. By (dis) at 4:45 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    super rookie has been arrested at the NVGP.

    i’m sure he’s about to tell us all about it.

  16. By Super Rookie at 5:01 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    WTF?

    I had nothing to do with this one.

  17. By Super Rookie at 5:18 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Tito Colnago:

    1) I never ever got paid.
    2) Are you trying to tell me that I am not a fan of the Nature Valley Gran Prix? I am perhaps their biggest supporter (ask Snide).
    3) I first read the story when I woke up this morning. The author is sticking to his guns and it is what it is.
    4) The NVGP does not bankroll the site and individuals can publish what they as long as it fits our motto, “Minnesota Cycling News and Gossip.”
    5) I don’t like people running in the middle of the street.
    6) I love Boost energy drink, but I have since moved onto bigger and better things like, APC.
    7) I can’t wait for the pro’s to race.

  18. By (dis) at 8:23 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Super Rookie:

    1) blah
    2) blah
    3) blah
    4) blah
    5) blah
    6) blah
    7) blah
    8) blah
    9) ever since the CW went to digital transmission i have been unable to watch gossip girl… luckily there is bikethorw.com and smithermpls.com!!

  19. By Dube at 11:17 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    People actually took/take bikethrow seriously? It has never been news, just local bike gossip to stir the pot.

  20. By Super Rookie at 11:43 pm on Apr 8, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    The integrity of the site went down hill when Hanna and Donimator took over!

  21. By Tito Colnago at 10:39 am on Apr 9, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    So Super Rookie’s disavowing all knowledge, responsibility of his own site’s content? Might want to think about that.

  22. By Emily at 1:35 pm on Apr 9, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @(dis): you can totally watch gossip girl online still.

  23. By (dis) at 2:17 pm on Apr 9, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Emily: WHAT!?
    shit! i am weeks behind!!

    i am cancelling all plans.
    sorry tuffride, you have been bumped!

  24. By Street Sweeper at 3:20 pm on Apr 9, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    Hey Tito, Were you aware/responsible for all content broadcasted by your former employer.

    Seems as though you have a axe to grind with Rookie. I can think of many reasons but this story isn’t one of them. Besides, you should know all about half assed reporting.

  25. By Emily at 10:09 pm on Apr 9, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @(dis): i wish i could have told you this last night during ’social media activate’ time. catch up. you’ll never believe what chuck does next…

  26. By (dis) at 10:35 pm on Apr 9, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Emily:
    omg. don’t tell me!

    are you friends with blair on facebook?
    i don’t think its really her, cuz shes fictional… but it’s still cool.

    i think shes my fav, but shes such a bitch sometimes. lol.
    idk, maybe serena is my fav.

  27. By Emily at 7:58 am on Apr 10, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @(dis):

    blair and i have been bff on facebook for like ten years now…and top 8 on myspace, AND i follow her twitter, read her blog, and watch all the celebrity gossip rags for fab photo updates. we’re close like that.

    i think you and serena should date. you’d be, like, totally cute together.

  28. By Smithers at 8:06 am on Apr 10, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Emily: @(dis): I don’t know what you two are talking about…

  29. By skibby at 10:09 am on Apr 10, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Smithers:
    neither do I, but it’s a totally better conversation than the bs about the nvgp/h-wood row. Plus Blair, Emily and Serena are all hotter than hotter than H-Wood, Street Sweeper, Colnago, NVGP Nazis, and that’s what is really important!

  30. By (dis) at 10:43 am on Apr 10, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @Emily:
    omg. really!? you think!? XD
    serena is totes cute!

  31. By Smithers at 11:56 am on Apr 10, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    @skibby: Nazis are so passé.

  32. By (dis) at 4:12 pm on Apr 10, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    xoxo, gossip (dis)

  33. By Bill Basso at 9:42 am on Apr 11, 2009 | Comment | ReplyReply directly to this specific comment

    So jumping out in front of the pack just before the last corner in my Jesus robes and sandals carrying a sign reading “The End is Near!” is now considered inappropriate?

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