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		<title>By: (dis)</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>(dis)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smithers, give the man a prize or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smithers, give the man a prize or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Super Rookie</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Rookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scotterob is GENIUS!

dewey dicketh is soler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scotterob is GENIUS!</p>
<p>dewey dicketh is soler</p>
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		<title>By: scotterob</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator>scotterob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soler = Deweth Dicketh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soler = Deweth Dicketh?</p>
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		<title>By: Smithers</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>Smithers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donimator?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donimator?</p>
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		<title>By: (dis)</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>(dis)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;soler looks like the spittin’ image of a certain local cycling celeb.

Super Rookie?
&lt;/i&gt;

i said celeb, not wanker.
guess again.

but, it&#039;s pretty freekin obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>soler looks like the spittin’ image of a certain local cycling celeb.</p>
<p>Super Rookie?<br />
</i></p>
<p>i said celeb, not wanker.<br />
guess again.</p>
<p>but, it&#8217;s pretty freekin obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vino&#039;s B sample has come back &quot;non-negative&quot; and he&#039;s been fired. And Mayo&#039;s now been caught positive for EPO.

Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vino&#8217;s B sample has come back &#8220;non-negative&#8221; and he&#8217;s been fired. And Mayo&#8217;s now been caught positive for EPO.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Smithers</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Smithers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;soler looks like the spittin’ image of a certian local cycling celeb.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Super Rookie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>soler looks like the spittin’ image of a certian local cycling celeb.</b></i></p>
<p>Super Rookie?</p>
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		<title>By: (dis)pencer</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>(dis)pencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why does no one mention the pink elelphant in the room?

soler looks like the spittin&#039; image of a certian local cycling celeb.

(gotta beat kruse in comment war).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why does no one mention the pink elelphant in the room?</p>
<p>soler looks like the spittin&#8217; image of a certian local cycling celeb.</p>
<p>(gotta beat kruse in comment war).</p>
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		<title>By: skibby</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>skibby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think Miracle-Whip could come out with some Mayo with extra EPO?
http://eurosport.yahoo.com/30072007/58/tour-de-france-mayo-positive-epo.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Miracle-Whip could come out with some Mayo with extra EPO?<br />
<a href="http://eurosport.yahoo.com/30072007/58/tour-de-france-mayo-positive-epo.html" rel="nofollow">http://eurosport.yahoo.com/30072007/58/tour-de-fra nce-mayo-positive-epo.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jkruse</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-674</link>
		<dc:creator>jkruse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Probably just being on another brand of bike would do it.&lt;/i&gt;

I thought they were on another brand of bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Probably just being on another brand of bike would do it.</i></p>
<p>I thought they were on another brand of bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Smithers</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>Smithers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;does it mean that that anytime someone has a great day, breaks a record, or has a stage or race that is memorable that it will immediately be assumed that they guy is a cheat?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

No, but if said rider breaks a record that has been held by one who is a known cheater, what might that tell you?

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sounds like the perfect tour will be a real snoozer because no one will want to do too good for fear of being labeled a cheat.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Kloden has already said as much. I doubt this would actually ever be a problem however. I am convinced that clean riders have nothing to worry about. The testing works. Just don&#039;t fail, or miss, the test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>does it mean that that anytime someone has a great day, breaks a record, or has a stage or race that is memorable that it will immediately be assumed that they guy is a cheat?</b></i></p>
<p>No, but if said rider breaks a record that has been held by one who is a known cheater, what might that tell you?</p>
<p><i><b>Sounds like the perfect tour will be a real snoozer because no one will want to do too good for fear of being labeled a cheat.</b></i></p>
<p>Kloden has already said as much. I doubt this would actually ever be a problem however. I am convinced that clean riders have nothing to worry about. The testing works. Just don&#8217;t fail, or miss, the test.</p>
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		<title>By: a. kruse</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>a. kruse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quickstep&#039;s &quot;leadout train&quot; in the last week of the tour?

Do you mean the one that let breakaways win? (ala stages won by Bennati and Casar)

I would disagree with the perceived &quot;strength&quot; of the Q.S train in the final week. I realize, at that point, it&#039;s a lot of effort to bring those stages down to bunch sprints, for the win - but if they were strong, they would have done it. A fair number of those lower-placings sprints looked fairly chaotic and it didn&#039;t seem like Boom Boom and the Flemish TGV, et al, were really &quot;killing&quot; anyone. (particularly with big names like McEwen and Freire out of the mix, along with Hushovd continuing to be off-form).

Letting Bennati go, in particular, was a real questionable manuever.

I&#039;m pretty convinced that Q.S and a lot of the other sprinter teams fried themselves in that frenetic first week. A lot of the stages ended in genuine breakaways (add Vasseur&#039;s win to that list).

Boonen did good, albeit against a field of rediuced sprint competition, but there was quite a bit of room for improvement.</description>
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<p>Do you mean the one that let breakaways win? (ala stages won by Bennati and Casar)</p>
<p>I would disagree with the perceived &#8220;strength&#8221; of the Q.S train in the final week. I realize, at that point, it&#8217;s a lot of effort to bring those stages down to bunch sprints, for the win &#8211; but if they were strong, they would have done it. A fair number of those lower-placings sprints looked fairly chaotic and it didn&#8217;t seem like Boom Boom and the Flemish TGV, et al, were really &#8220;killing&#8221; anyone. (particularly with big names like McEwen and Freire out of the mix, along with Hushovd continuing to be off-form).</p>
<p>Letting Bennati go, in particular, was a real questionable manuever.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty convinced that Q.S and a lot of the other sprinter teams fried themselves in that frenetic first week. A lot of the stages ended in genuine breakaways (add Vasseur&#8217;s win to that list).</p>
<p>Boonen did good, albeit against a field of rediuced sprint competition, but there was quite a bit of room for improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Champs</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-671</link>
		<dc:creator>Champs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, those QuickStep guys are pretty good at winning those *specialized* world championships.

I&#039;ll echo Tuffy&#039;s sentiments... or cynicism... take your pick.  If the new controls aren&#039;t just singling out riders at random to make examples of them, and really are a shade better at catching cheats than the Keystone Kops, then it&#039;s just a matter of time until the dopers get better at it.

Despite the scandals, I think this year&#039;s tour was great, especially in the mountains.  The if-not-always perfect riding of Soler and Contador was great, and I loved how Astana, even if they did not finish, rode with a lot of pain and flashes of anger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, those QuickStep guys are pretty good at winning those *specialized* world championships.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll echo Tuffy&#8217;s sentiments&#8230; or cynicism&#8230; take your pick.  If the new controls aren&#8217;t just singling out riders at random to make examples of them, and really are a shade better at catching cheats than the Keystone Kops, then it&#8217;s just a matter of time until the dopers get better at it.</p>
<p>Despite the scandals, I think this year&#8217;s tour was great, especially in the mountains.  The if-not-always perfect riding of Soler and Contador was great, and I loved how Astana, even if they did not finish, rode with a lot of pain and flashes of anger.</p>
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		<title>By: T3</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-670</link>
		<dc:creator>T3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But his record setting climb up the Plateau-de-Beille along side Michael Rasmussen on stage 14 has led some to speculate that he may not be so squeaky clean after all&lt;/i&gt;

So -- have we passed the point in the sport that from now on any good performance will be questioned?

I&#039;m not saying that given the climate today that the speculation is not warranted... but let&#039;s say the sport was hypothetically cleaned up. Going forward -- does it mean that that anytime someone has a great day, breaks a record, or has a stage or race that is memorable that it will immediately be assumed that they guy is a cheat?

Sounds like the perfect tour will be a real snoozer because no one will want to do too good for fear of being labeled a cheat. I realize they are a ways away from cleaning up the sport but it sounds like if/when they get there  - it could be pretty boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But his record setting climb up the Plateau-de-Beille along side Michael Rasmussen on stage 14 has led some to speculate that he may not be so squeaky clean after all</i></p>
<p>So &#8212; have we passed the point in the sport that from now on any good performance will be questioned?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that given the climate today that the speculation is not warranted&#8230; but let&#8217;s say the sport was hypothetically cleaned up. Going forward &#8212; does it mean that that anytime someone has a great day, breaks a record, or has a stage or race that is memorable that it will immediately be assumed that they guy is a cheat?</p>
<p>Sounds like the perfect tour will be a real snoozer because no one will want to do too good for fear of being labeled a cheat. I realize they are a ways away from cleaning up the sport but it sounds like if/when they get there  &#8211; it could be pretty boring.</p>
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		<title>By: bda</title>
		<link>http://smithersmpls.com/2007/07/30/tour-de-france-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>bda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22163308-5001023,00.html

Contador&#039;s being accused of doping.  Apparently, his name was listed among the Puerto docs.  No new evidence.</description>
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<p>Contador&#8217;s being accused of doping.  Apparently, his name was listed among the Puerto docs.  No new evidence.</p>
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